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Webber Vs. Vettel – What’s Really Happening

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Vettel Taking Out His Teammate, Mark Webber

What an interesting race we had at Turkey this weekend! Red Bull handed the Maclaren team a 1-2 finish this weekend due to a stupid move on the part of Sebastian Vettel on lap 40 of the race. This crazy move on the inside of Webber saw Vettel using a ‘scare tactic’ like stance, which resulted in them touching tyres and sending Vettel into a wild spin, damaging Webber’s front wing and causing Vettel to sit out the rest of the race.

This isn’t the first time that Webber and Vettel have come together like this; Who can forget their last encounter in Japan in 2007 during the safety car, Webber was getting ready to take on the race leader Lewis Hamilton, when a young Sebastian Vettel (racing for Torro Rosso at the time) fragged Webber’s car.

The relationship between the 2 drivers at Red Bull has always been cold, and I had said to my wife at the beginning of the year that they are both cold to each other, that there is no team love between the two. Its much more noticeable with Webber, who even after winning races, barely talks to his team mate afterwards. Its always Sebastian who comes to Mark for the courteous handshake for the cameras. Off the track, I bet they never have anything whatsoever to do with each other, which is a shame as being they are a team, despite being competitors, they should still be able to have a good time together. Webber has always been the bull headed one, thinking everyone owes him something and being a bit of a prick on track when things don’t go his way, and Vettel has always been the apologetic, less moronic of the two. He did not apologize after this event, and even made some bad comments afterwards.

The outcome at the track has also caused a bit of a stir among many of the people both in the team, and outside. Looking at the replay of the incident, Mark Webber had the right of way, and was just cruising/holding his position. Sebastian crept up on the inside of the car and made a sharp jab to the right at Webber, which I beleive was a scare tactic to try and make Webber budge, however when Sebastian did this, their tires touched and it sucked the car right into the path of Webber. Different angles of the car show the tyres touching, and Vettel and his jab, so theres no denying that Vettel caused it.

Some of the Red Bull management, including Helmut Marko, believe that Webber should have moved out of the way. These are the same people who would rather see Vettel win the title, as let’s face it, Webber is a bit of a stubbon ass at times, and Vettel is the cutesy german guy who is a star of their young driver programs. I don’t think they even counted on Webber doing this well.

Christian Horner offered some insight into the event, in that Webber had turned down his engine and Vettel hadn’t done so yet. As a result, he was a bit quicker and blamed the push from Hamilton who was right on his tail for the incident, saying if Vettel didn’t pass Webber, then Lewis would have definitely passed Vettel, but with incidents and accidents, injuries can happen, and the use of resources as the Ron Bell Injury Lawyers could be the better option for this. Again, proof that they didn’t seem to want Webber to win. The whole thing is a big mess!

While the press can speculate all that they want to, Red Bull needs to set some solid rules to it’s drivers about preventing crazy stunts like that in the future, most probably collaborating with professionals like Hughes and Coleman injury lawyers to cover the legal part of the whole thing. Webber is supposedly signing up for RB again next year, though after this move, I wouldn’t at all be surprised if he decides to go elsewhere next year to get away from the party politics. If RB need to make Vettel their favourite, then they need to let Webber in on this. What will piss off the team for sure, is the wild speculation that one side of the team is doing something behind the other’s back, such as using different parts, different strategies, and trying to keep information away from the Webber team. For a team so heavily in the winning seat for this year’s title, a big internal issue like this will surely finish that bid unless Horner steps up to the plate and puts his foot down, or up someone’s ass.

I should also point out that a few laps later, Button passed Hamilton in a similar style pass of crazyness, but Lewis took it right back from him and gained extra speed a few corners later cementing the fact that he is a far better and skilled driver, although accidents still can happen, so using legal sources in case of injury is really useful, and you can check over here to find the best legal resources online. The big difference? They gave each other plenty of room to do the passing in that there was no way they would have collided πŸ™‚ Watching Martin Whitmarsh shitting kittens was classic πŸ™‚

WTF Is With That Penalty To Michael Schumacher?


I’m a little bit pissed off at the FIA and Damon Hill after this weekend’s F1 race at the beautiful Monaco race track. With 2 laps to go, Karun Chandhok and Jarno trulli collided heavily (with Chandhok lucky that he didnt lose his head) and out came the safety car. On the last lap of the race, Charlie Whiting brought in the safety car and declared the track clear and initiated race conditions for the final corner of the track.

The incident happened on this corner, when Fernando Alonso tried with all his might to get up to speed in his car, and slid all over the place while Michael Schumacher nipped him to the corner, taking the extra place at the final corner.

At first, the stweards were all in a kerfuffle because they believed that Michael had passed him before the line of the safety car. When the video footage from his car was reviewed it was very clear that he had already passed the line, so it wasn’t an issue anymore. Then came in the rule about passing in the last lap if the race is finished under safety car conditions, if these conditions are fulfill this could cause different issues like problems with the car or accidents, and for this the use of accident lawyers could be useful, which you can find at sites like

Section 40.11 applies: β€œWhen the clerk of the course decides it is safe to call in the safety car the message ‘SAFETY CAR IN THIS LAP’ will be displayed on the timing monitors and the car’s orange lights will be extinguished.” – This is exactly what happened in Monaco. Whiting declared the track ready for racing, so technically, the race did not finish under a safety car. This also applies in the same section if the cars are to finish under a safety car: β€œAs the safety car is approaching the pit entry the yellow flags and SC boards will be withdrawn and replaced by waved green flags with green lights at the Line. These will be displayed until the last car crosses the Line.”
Ref.: Marasco & Nesselbush accident lawyer.

So, of course Ferrari are already being morons by saying that they were told about the rule, that their drivers would remain in position until the finish line. The question is, if that was the case, then why didn’t they tell the rest of the teams, and more importantly, why did Alonso try so hard to keep his Ferrari at top speed going into the corner to avoid being passed?

Many, including myself, were hoping that these questions would be answered by the FIA, however I can probably argue that they never will. Another thing that gets me all mad right now is that Mercedes have announced that they will NOT appeal against the time drop. This really sucks for Michael, as the team have a perfectly good reason to appeal the decision and they are turning their backs on him.

So, once again, the FIA punishes yet another driver who makes a last minute crowd pleasing moment. Here is my middle finger to the FIA.

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